Art or Fishing, which comes first? Are they the same to you?
Nah, Art first. You have to make a living, and fishing sure as hell isn’t going to make that happen. My dad Mastered in Art education so I grew up with art around me. It has been one of those constant themes in my life. When the football and baseball stops, art still goes. It has always been the thing on my mind that I knew I was going to accomplish because of the confidence I had in myself. Trust me, I’ve had tons of horrible jobs and it hasn’t been easy, but when it comes down to it art has always been my thing.
What has drawn you into fly-fishing?
Its simple. I grew up fishing worms, then moved to lures and slayed fish. It wasn’t a challenge at a certain point. It's kind of like meeting a pretty girl. You have to work your ass off to get her attention, and there are usually much less really cool pretty girls. That’s what fly-fishing is for me. It became this chase for difficulty and for a real challenge. It became less about slaying hog bass on a spin rod and more about perfecting something and really putting some mental capacity into it.
Explain to me your typical cold morning salmon fishing.
Well first of all we get up earlier than anyone else because we want our spots to be open. The anticipation is probably as much fun as actually fishing is. Every minute that goes by means that the weekend is that one-minute shorter. I usually fish with my little brother, so you can always guarantee that we are arguing about something. Red bull, usually several bananas and granola is what our diet consists of. Since we don’t get to fish that much anymore, it’s a pretty high-pressure situation and it can be kind of intense until someone lands a fish.
I am aware that you are a family man. For many fishermen balance can be a hard thing to attain. What kind of balance do you have in your life?
Before the family I fished a ton. Ever since the kids, it has really just taken my focus more towards my family. I spend all the time that I can spend with them. I feel balanced, I really do, but it's more of just a pendulum swing. My focuses have really aimed more towards the girls than on chasing fish. So it’s not really a balance but it’s a positive pendulum swing.
What are your thoughts on the current mentality in modern fishing culture? I am not saying that there are any, but I am interested to hear your opinion.
“Sigh”….its kind of become like NASCAR. People don’t just catch fish anymore…it's all about who your sponsors are and how legit you claim to be. At the end of the day everyone just wants free shit so that they can claim that they are ‘sponsored’. The whole scene has become beyond organic. Don’t get me wrong, it has given me more work, which is great, but there is absolutely a false sense of reality in fishing and what really matters in the first place. Its cool to want attention and show everyone what you're up to and that you slay pigs as long as its not about commercial contrived bullshit. Because, in my opinion, at the end of the day, no one really cares. It’s about the good times and about cold mornings and all of the memories. It’s also great to show people and get hyped on the whole idea of fishing. We don’t need to be fake though.